@Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 2w ago

Bear with me, I have a theory.

Elon Musk has been open about wanting to create an "everything app" dominating the social commons and providing banking and other services, as well as monopolizing transportation (Tesla cars, SpaceX) and factory and in-home services (Tesla humanoids).

Amazon has already expanded from finding and shipping books to everything else and has attempted to amalgamate the markets on groceries, entertainment, and health care into one marketplace.

Google is trying to corner the market on "answers" (not information, since they're training their users to accept anything that sounds plausible).

Apple wants to be the one stop shop for all your personal apps, and Microsoft wants to supply all your business apps.

Endgame: Wall-E's Buy N Large

#ConspiracyTheory #WallE #BuyNLarge #TechBro

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 4mo ago

Gregor has decided to pose for #Caturday!

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· 4mo ago

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@uriel@bbs.keinpfusch.net @teledyn@mstdn.ca It was published at the 2021 ACM Conference on Fairness, Accountability, and Transparency. It's not a conference on AI models, it's a conference about accountability and transparency of computing systems. "Science" is more than math and data and methodology. It includes many kinds of analysis, including reasoning from first principles and making inductive and deductive arguments, as well as presentation of new ideas. At a conference on fairness, accountability and transparency, I would expect to see a paper containing analysis of potential bias and obfuscation as well as recommendations for avoiding them, and I would have no problem counting it as a scientific paper if it makes a clear, sound argument for why a given thing will produce biased results and enable avoidance of accountability. The fact that these specific outcomes were later independently found to occur simply reinforces the conclusion that the analysis was sound. The criteria for what counts as a "scientific paper" are amorphous. Different research areas have different norms. For decades, robotics conference papers basically consisted of "Look ma! No hands!" The real surprise to me is that a conference accepted a 14 page paper. In my field, the norm is six pages and you can pay extra for up to a total of eight. Link to paper: https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3442188.3445922

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 4mo ago

Happy #Caturday and good scritches to all who participate!

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 3mo ago

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@marshray@infosec.exchange @petealexharris@mastodon.scot @johncarlosbaez@mathstodon.xyz I think it's built into humanity. We are aware of malice because it is a common failure mode in cooperative endeavours, especially in childhood when people have not learned to manage strong emotions like jealousy. Humans develop internal complex predictive models of not only their environment in general but of the behavior of other humans. We default to modeling others at our own level of competence. Which makes modeling toddlers extra hard, because we desperately need to model them, but they are nowhere near our level of competence. Both toddlers and robots often seem "maliciously compliant". They do *precisely* what you ask, especially when that's not what you intended. Of course all humanity has maliciously compliant trickster legends. Anyone with children would love those stories.

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 5mo ago

RE: @oatp@fediscience.org

This paper is *advocating for* LLMs to be given access to paywalled papers as training data while actual human researchers outside academia have to go hat-in-hand to authors begging for preprints, because LLMs not having access to high quality human-generated work will be bad for the LLMs.

I can't even with this timeline.

#OpenSource #LLMs

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 2mo ago

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@rachel@tech.lgbt @dahukanna@mastodon.social I couldn't finish it. I got halfway through to where he was talking about "whether your prospective coder can write a clean enough specification for the code that the AI won't screw it up" (paraphrased) and had to stop. The autonomous robotics community has spent the last ten years gradually transitioning from "define what the robot should do" to "evaluate whether the robot learned something acceptable" because the prior 40 years had established that specifying a desired autonomous behavior was impractical. I personally spent two full years trying to drag systems engineers away from specifications that either defined the autonomous behavior in such detail that the behavior wasn't autonomous any more or were so vague that they didn't give the designer enough information to know what to design. If your goal is an automated system, and you're just using your LLMs as an extra abstraction layer that takes in pseudocode and outputs something that compiles, this might work. But specifications and requirements are more abstract than pseudocode. The formal methods community has spent decades trying to find ways to reliably capture shared context and assumptions, and the conclusion is usually "part of the value of our extremely labor-intensive formal specification process is that it helps enable people to identify and articulate unstated assumptions". And I'm not confident an LLM is capable of translating a clean spec into clean code.

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 2mo ago

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@afewbugs@social.coop I love taxonomies. They express different ways of abstracting problems, and classification systems solve real problems.

For example, we need a largely arbitrary system of nomenclature for biological things so that biologists can

know whether or not they are working on the same thing
understand the degree to which the thing they have learned about an organism is true of other organisms
identify patterns and fundamental properties/processes behind groups of organisms.

Without classification systems, we wouldn't be able to go to a library and find a book.

Yes, words are noises we have agreed represent concepts that may or may not line up with what's in other peoples' heads or even with the objects being represented.

But that doesn't make them useless or boring.

(That said: yes, I did love sorting my crayons by color and putting decks of playing cards in order first by suit and then from ace to king for entertainment as a child. Ironing was my favorite chore. And I still love games that make order out of chaos and arrange my books by subject/genre first, then author last name, then either by story order or publication date.)

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 3mo ago

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@edgeofeurope@mastodon.social @alicetragedy@mastodon.social It depends on local conditions. When we lived along the Florida coast, 35C (95F) was hot but workable if we were hydrated, shaded/hatted, and taking adequate breaks. However, if we were indoors in a building that wasn't designed for airflow and that didn't have air conditioning, conditions degraded quickly. My employer routinely found alternative air conditioned workspaces or sent people home in outdoor temperatures well below 35 when the inside of the building became too hot because the AC was off. Here in the Canadian Maritimes, 30C (86F) is sticky and unpleasant and worse than 35C in Florida. It feels like a reasonable local threshold since cooling here is still a patchwork of open windows and AC systems, and people here don't cool their buildings to frigid temperatures in the summer like they do in Florida. Maybe base a threshold on the "feels like" heat index?

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 5mo ago

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@grumpygrimnir @WPalant @freya Funny how the creeps always want it both ways. "She's just ones and zeros, so I can treat her however I want." (which I'm sure at least sometimes gets internalized as "No doctors exist for her kind so I must be the hero and fix her") and "She's conscious, so she can be my girlfriend." All to meet the unstated goal, "Make me feel like a good guy." I suppose it's essential for the power dynamic that they always create a lower status-coded entity. If we achieved full gender equality, I'm sure they'd pick a lower career status or a lower economic status or a lower ethnic status for their emotional support LLM.

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 2mo ago

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@pluralistic@mamot.fr The normalization part is what really concerns me. From the press release: "something we expect to become more commonplace with the proliferation of increasingly cyber-capable models". The whole "this is inevitable" is extremely icky. I'm beginning to wonder whether what LLM companies really need is the huge, progress-preventing friction of a large regulatory bureaucracy designed specifically for safety, licensure, certification, legal compliance, and assurance. They deserve each other.

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 2mo ago

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@failedLyndonLaRouchite@mas.to @afewbugs@social.coop Yes, science that has direct commercial value has been hoarded by scientists - specifically by people who know the tech and want to be rewarded for transitioning it out of the lab. But this post covers science that has no direct commercial value, science that is not being hoarded by scientists, and science that is done by scientists who want help and credit for finding an answer or solution. And *that* science is being hoarded by academic journals.

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 3mo ago

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@alexpalacefan@mastodonapp.uk @janeishly@beige.party I doubt this would make a measurable difference here. Yesterday I saw a flatbed eighteen-wheeler truck turn left on a red light after the one in front of it turned left on yellow. This is apparently normal enough behaviour that the local-ish paper called it out. I don't think looking away from the wheel is the problem. Especially since it's pretty clear that *distraction* (meaning trying to hold down a conversation or read/compose a text or basically not pay attention to driving) is a problem regardless of where the driver is looking. But I really think the core problem is local and international cultural norms that say ignoring safety regulations is okay, that say "texting while driving is fine, actually" just like they say "red means another car goes through is fine, actually".

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 4mo ago

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@david_chisnall@infosec.exchange @tante@tldr.nettime.org Remember when Intel released a chip with a built in floating point math error that happened one nine-billionth of the time? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_FDIV_bug

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 5mo ago

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@JoannaCanFixIT@mastodon.social @HollieK72@mastodonapp.uk @Remittancegirl@mstdn.social "Gathering support" isn't just popular support. If you want direct action (including even simple action like encouraging people to vote), you need a situation where people who agree on things have each others' contact information and know and trust each other. The connections that enable direct action and support for direct action are more easily formed at protests. Dropping into conversation with the people around you and getting to know them is easier because you already have at least one thing in common. If you regularly see the same people at your local protests, you are building a community that didn't exist before.

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 5mo ago

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@ahimsa_pdx@disabled.social @mecfs@fedigroups.social @ahimsa_pdx@disabled.social @mecfs@fedigroups.social This describes so much of my experience. I've noticed my decision making is much more precise and rigid now. It reads as "this person who used to be so flexible and responsive about handling things that weren't working has gotten so intolerant of change." But what's actually going on is that I have gamed out all the scenarios before even starting, and worked through the thresholds that will affect whether I can do something and how different things will affect my available energy, to the point where I *know* what my options are and whatever I'm facing has *already* been factored in. But I think the most important change for me has been a clear-eyed look at what I personally *need* to accomplish and what is, effectively, optional. And that leads to very clear decision making. If it helps me accomplish a non-optional goal, I do it. Everything else is optional and is superseded by rest or modified to adapt for lower energy as needed. I have been shocked by the number of things that turn out to be "optional".

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 2mo ago

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@afewbugs@social.coop I missed that you were referring to a world seen through a lens where everything is replaced with its category's average as boring, rather than to the taxonomy itself! It is a constant struggle to get people to grasp that taxonomic classification systems are about solving problems through abstraction, not about doing a toddler's block sorting puzzle. (In my field, ontologies are trendy but taxonomies are undervalued.)

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 3mo ago

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@beadsland@beige.party I remember the trolls and sea lions in 2021 and 2022 saying, "Well if Long Covid is so prevalent, why aren't we seeing this big shift in the disability data? Shouldn't that be a thing?" and being told it was too early to see the trend in the data. Sigh. And grrr.

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 3mo ago

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@Quantensalat@scicomm.xyz @Bumblefish@mastodon.scot @darkuncle@infosec.exchange @gregeganSF@mathstodon.xyz WTF? Checking, since my slop exposure is low. To be clear (restating to make sure I'm actually grasping the text) - this is a *publisher* saying that the *publication* (the thing they produce, their contribution to the process) isn't as important as the "insight" (the thing the scientist produces, that requires refinement and friction to become useful). That somehow by focusing on *the thing they don't do* they will become more important to the process and more profitable? And also, papers are about the scientist's insight, but their insight that the scientist's insight is the important thing is what will ... generate magical profit? It's probably naïve to hope that a *publisher* would understand that their role in scientific progress includes (1) facilitating communication between scientists, (2) providing a process that enables scientists to establish mutual ptrust, and (3) introducing necessary friction to improve communication of novel ideas and reduce misunderstanding. And traditionally raking cash off the top of every transaction, because scientists *need* all three of those things. Discovering that their job is publishing other peoples' insights is a world-shaking insight that contradicts their long-standing belief? What did they think their job was? I'm beginning to think history is going to name this the era of Mass Delusion.

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 5mo ago

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@tom@tomkahe.com @cwebber@social.coop It can't be cost-cutting if new-labour-plus-LLM-cost is larger than old-labour cost. It's "rebalancing our cost matrix to support our new business operations strategy"! (Kind of queasy to discover that making up business jargon is so easy.)

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 5mo ago

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@nyhan@fediscience.org THIS is the thing that has been confusing me from the start. If the work you are doing doesn't need to be accurate or is busywork, *why are you doing it in the first place*? If the work you are doing needs to be accurate or is necessary, how can an LLM be trusted to do it?

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 5mo ago

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@futurebird @ModestinoSycamore @benroyce @dgar @geckzilla 2 mm: thickness of the plastic internal part of a USB-A plug 5 mm: approximate outer thickness (short cross-section of the metal part) of a USB-A plug 1.1 cm: width (long cross-section of the metal part) of a USB-A plug Still working on 1.8 cm.

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 5mo ago

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@mdione @mms @minego It's just the acronym for "Garbage in, garbage out". (I was hoping it wasn't actually a gendered name, but I think you could probably pick any two syllables and discover that they're a name in some culture.)

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 4mo ago

Something I love to see in a paper: "Eight empirically testable predictions are derived from the integrated model."

From "Spike Protein-Mediated Compound Immunodeficiency Cascade in COVID-19 and Long-COVID"

https://doi.org/10.13140/RG.2.2.28202.48325

#COVID19 #LongCovid @longcovid@fedigroups.social

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 4mo ago

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@odr_k4tana@infosec.exchange @Gargron@mastodon.social I have been and continue to be interested in tech. I miss the customization options for the early Macs - delicate blue and white menu bar detailing and even special patterns for scroll bars. But I have long covid, and every time someone pushes a user interface change I get pounding headaches from trying to adapt to it. I cannot emphasize how much I wish someone would build a device whose user interface changes were guaranteed to happen *only* when there were *no* alternatives and whose feature updates consisted of "we fixed some broken stuff on the back end, no new functions that aren't opt-in, we promise." I crave a non-existent utopian world where I can buy an electronic device that's the equivalent of a multimeter: I pay once, and I swap out the batteries occasionally, and I use it until I don't need it any more, and *nothing about it changes*.

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 4mo ago

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@dave@alvarado.social @TexJoachim@blabber.rocks @totalclaireity@toot.lgbt For over half my life, every year the phone company would drop a giant brick of a book in tiny print with every single family's phone number and address, listed by name (white pages), every single business's phone number and address with optional larger ad (yellow pages), and phone numbers for regional and federal government agencies (blue pages). I personally spent over 20 years handing out business cards with a phone number on them to total strangers, with the implicit understanding that if they ran into someone who might be relevant, they should give them that information. I get the message on consent, but it's not intuitively obvious (especially to older people) that *a phone number in particular* is naturally private information. For generations, a phone number was *explicitly* understood to be public information.

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 4mo ago

Google: All your base are belong to us

https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/

TechCrunch

Google Search as you know it is over | TechCrunch

Google is transforming Search from a list of links into an AI-powered experience filled with conversational answers, autonomous agents, and interactive interfaces — a shift that could further reduce traffic to publishers across the web.

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 4mo ago

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@ElenLeFoll@fediscience.org @washingtonpost@mstdn.social Charming how it ends by noting that "Social networks like Facebook and Twitter — the heart of the modern web — prohibit scraping, which means most data sets used to train AI cannot access them." Would these companies (who are described in the article as stealing copyrighted content and whose models have been reported elsewhere as identifying enormous numbers of security vulnerabilities) really be deterred by a prohibition?

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 4mo ago

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@afewbugs@social.coop I know this is never going to happen (people being people), but it would be great if we could establish something like a convention where there are two replies after the main post - one for content discussions and one for metadata and context discussions, and then the replies go in one or the other but not both and nothing directly in response to the main post.

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 5mo ago

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@MiasAlt@sunny.garden @aral@mastodon.ar.al The central question of Dreamships is whether the AI is its own consciousness, whether it is truly self-aware or just programmed to persuade people that it is. The twist at the end is that it can't be self-aware because it tries to kill people on the assumption that there is no meaningful difference between the people it is trying to kill and its predictive models of them. I feel like these companies are already much too far down that path of being incapable of distinguishing between the entity and the model of the entity.

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 5mo ago

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@jkirkendall@wandering.shop My library system in Halifax, NS uses Libby as well as Hoopla and Kanopy, so I can at least see my own system.

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 5mo ago

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@jeffowski@mastodon.world Or a leather jacket with cotton pocket linings. Or a wool suit with polyester lining. Or anything with an elastic in it! I get that having linings stitched into clothes instead of just layering garments is a relatively recent thing, but now I am *really* curious about what kind of moral panic was going on with clothes when this was written.

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 5mo ago

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@paninid@mastodon.world This is definitely what stops me from watching certain kinds of entertainment. I try to be aware of what kind of emotional or social calluses something is developing in me, and whether something feels manipulative or like it's encouraging me to develop prejudices or emotional shortcuts. And I try to stop doing things that feel like they're making me into a worse person.

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 5mo ago

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@adredish Potential solution: UBI for living expenses, grants for research, university/company/professional society for library and community connection? Then the UBI is covering the volunteer work and you get to set how much and what volunteering you want to do, and the grant covers the remaining research expenses (space and equipment and supplies and honoraria for special expertise). You, and your students, and your lab tech all have their living expenses covered.

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 5mo ago

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@thisismyglasgow How is it attached? Buttons? Cable ties? String tied in neat bows?

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 5mo ago

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@imanijoy @Mastodon Every time I see these posts talking about "Mastodon" as though it's a unitary thing that can be steered, I get confused. Is this about the back end (for example, whether algorithms other than chronological order will be available as standard on the server/instance side) or about the front end (for example, a specific app that someone who has an account on a server uses to read, write, and interact with posts)? Or both? And if an app is involved, which one? The last time I saw a bunch of stuff about "Mastodon" framed this way, it turned out to be an app-specific thing that made peoples' content warnings bad, but that didn't affect me because I don't use that app. But this sounds like it includes back end stuff that might affect me? So confused....

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 5mo ago

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@mdione @mms @minego We should call them all Gigo.

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 5mo ago

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@tjbutt58 @janneke @minego There was a nice study about 15 years ago, presented at HRI (the Human Robot Interaction conference) where they showed groups of people a robot doing something. The less they were told about how it worked, the more they assumed human capabilities and motivations to it.

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 5mo ago

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@WPalant @grumpygrimnir I run into the same thing with autonomous robots. It's a complex, unpredictable and often unreliable technology. You should only use it when all simpler approaches have failed or cannot be applied. The number of cases where simpler approaches are not an option is much, MUCH smaller than most people (especially the technology's developers!) think it is.

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 5mo ago

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@WPalant @grumpygrimnir I wonder whether "what kind of LLM companion someone builds and how they treat it" could be a good therapeutic tool for bringing complex underlying preconceptions to the surface?

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 5mo ago

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@ePD5qRxX @anton @michael_w_busch So if you tried to burn them by lighting them on fire, in addition to cotton and linen ash, you'll end up with a blob of melted red and blue plastic? Ick.

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 4mo ago

Desperately seeking an alternative to Ice Cubes for iOS!!

(I don't have the spoons right now for all the explanations about why iOS.)

I really like almost everything about Ice Cubes, but I am ***over*** wasting my limited spoons drafting and re-drafting posts that disappear when the app crashes because the phone tried to transition between portrait and landscape as I changed position.

#iOS #MastodonApp #IceCubesApp

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 5mo ago

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@artemis@dice.camp (Suddenly feeling very smug about my large personal library of hard copy books.)

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 4mo ago

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@WeirdWriter@caneandable.social For me, the big reason not to do this is that I have an exertion-limiting disorder triggered by cognitive effort. I have no cushion to handle uncertainty, no cognitive buffer for surprise requests. I prepare a full script for all presentations and read it word for word. On a bad day, I answer questions by writing them down and answering via email. It takes *work* for me to figure out what is being asked, decide what to describe, generate a description, handle the emotional strain of figuring out whether I chose the right things to describe, remembering all the things I'm supposed to say besides the pre-set "name and affiliation," and then actually saying it. I won't hear anyone's answers before me, and will miss at least the next two people. I cannot prepare, because every day I am wearing something different, my hair is different, I am coming to the meeting a slightly different person. In an ideal world, I would balance these constraints by asking everyone to provide the same specific* information - for instance "please say your name and use a couple of words to describe your shirt or lack thereof". This has the dual advantage of reducing spoons for everyone else and shortening the introductions phase of the meeting, while still providing some information to connect a name with a voice and allowing an expression of personality. *"Say one interesting thing about yourself" is the actively bad increased exertion version of this prompt.

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 4mo ago

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@liaizon@social.wake.st Your post came across my feed alone, and before I clicked through, my first thought was "But .. isn't accurate measurement kind of important? And straight lines? I still use a ruler even though it's been years since grade school."

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 2mo ago

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@paul@oldfriends.live Retired federal employee here. The policy at my (non-Congress) organization was that you can accumulate sick leave for as long as you work (104 hours per year), you can borrow up to 240 hours of sick leave on the condition that you earn it back once you're better, you can take Leave Without Pay (LWOP) to cover time that isn't covered by leave as long as you honestly intend to return, and there's a lot of flexibility around reduced work hours on an as needed basis. The same patchwork of policies covers parental leave, leave for illness or injury, and short-term disability. Long-term disability is handled via retirement. I have personally taken weeks off for illness and earned all my borrowed sick leave back upon my return. I took advantage of many of these policies over as my long covid worsened and I was eventually forced into disability retirement. "Congress member" comes with a great deal of personal autonomy and a different set of rules, and elected offices generally require special policies. But they are arguably more important to the country's function than their staffers, and I would hope their leave and termination rules would be at least as stringent as those of their staffers. This employee handbook [1] for Democratic staffers outlines the policy - including a rule that anyone who doesn't show up for work for more than 3 days without contacting their supervisor is considered to have "abandoned" their job. [1] https://democrats-cha.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/democrats-cha.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/Model%20Employee%20Handbook_118th%20Congres.pdf

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 4mo ago

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@aud@fire.asta.lgbt @jonny@neuromatch.social Also, the people who would want a robot to do their shopping are the opposite of the people who spend lots and lots of money on shopping. If you care about getting precisely the right thing, you *care* about looking at all the things to make sure it's the right one. If you are "just give me five blue button down shirts that fit" you will absolutely want the robot to do it. The ones using the robots will be the least profitable customers, because they're already minimizing their shopping and they're not suddenly going to develop an overpowering interest in buying more (or a dramatically larger budget) just because a robot can do it for them.

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 5mo ago

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@thibaultmol@en.osm.town @onepict@chaos.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu Looking at these pictures always triggers a deep awe at human pattern recognition ability for me. (And then I watch Is It Cake? and deeply enjoy the bakers explaining that they picked something (that has a 50% chance of being wrong) because "it looked cakey".)

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 2mo ago

I do not watch the #Monsterdon movies, but I deeply enjoy skimming through the posts that cross my feed after the fact. They always make me smile. "Wowowowoowow!" "Hut! Hut! Hut!" "Worst movie ever, or only worst movie I've seen this year?" You are the best. Thank you.

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Robotistry @Robotistry@fediscience.org

· 4mo ago

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@Synchro@phpc.social @gimulnautti@mastodon.green @mason@partychickens.net @Paul_Taylor@mathstodon.xyz We have a listserv for our standard development working group that every single person had to proactively ask to join. The instructions for leaving are at the bottom of every email. We normally send one or two emails a week with action items and meeting invite details. One week, some people on the list started having an actual technical conversation related to the topic of the list. According to the alerts I get as owner of the list, Google immediately flagged the listserv as spam and invisibly blocked *every* gmail address on the list from receiving our messages - no notification to our members, no recourse, just a blanket ban. Everyone on that list, including me, *requested* those emails. My own gmail address was blocked. I contacted our org about getting it fixed and I stopped getting notifications, but I have precisely zero idea what they did to fix it.

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