Don't forget! air_conditioning=yes/no is the tag you can map now!
When you walk into a shop/cafe/restaurant do you immediately notice the cold air? You should be happy for 2 reasons! You can cool down, and now you have something to map into OSM!
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I think I just added the first amenity=place_of_worship,religion=esotericism to OSM
I mean, #OpenStreetMap and #OpenStreetMapFoundation has problems, but c'mon, at least we're not as bad as #Wikipedia
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I know some people are against the check_date tag, but I think it's great! OSM will last many decades more, and it's great to have a way to record that an OSMer confirms that this thing is still there.
Open Source projects often have a tag for their bug reports/issues called “good first issue”. Something new people can work on, to get used to this software project.
Looks like like AI/LLM bots are scanning for that, and sending drive-by patches “fixing” those issue. This drains maintainer's time.
Something that used to be good to help new software developers, is draining software maintainer's energy. Thanks GenAI!
https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/issues/6954#:~:text=Last%20year%2C%20I%20renamed%20iD%E2%80%99s%20%E2%80%9Cgood%20first%20issue%E2%80%9D%20label%20to%20%E2%80%9Cnew%20contributor%20opportunity%E2%80%9D%2C%20after%20we%20also%20noticed%20newcomers%20picking%20them%20up%20within%20hours%20or%20even%20minutes%2C%20too%20fast%20to%20be%20intentional%20visitors%20to%20the%20repository%2E%20We%20found%20that%20at%20least%20one%20site%20was%20gamifying%20good%20first%20issues%20across%20a%20massive%20number%20of%20GitHub%20repos%2E%20It%20was%20incentivizing%20the%20sort%20of%20drive%2Dby%20PRs%20we%20frown%20upon%2E
#AI #LLM #slop
There isn't a #MapComplete thing for “Does this place have air conditioning?”, right?
Anyone good with MC want to whisk that up for me? Summer in Europe, so this would be nice to have!
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² a tip for cis people: you should really really avoid using, or mentioning, a trans person's previous name (their deadname).
I can't really explain it, but I (& many other trans ppl) really really don't like hearing it, or being referred to with that name.
Someone gets married, and changes their name? Many don't have a problem seeing their maiden name. But for me, as a trans person, I really don't want you to think of me as that name.
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³ _did_ I change gender? 🤔
Sure I used to try to live as a man. But “Was I a Man?” Hmmmm, complicated question with complicated answer.
I'm not 100% sure what the correct answer is. 😅 Gender is fun/complicated! 😆
So writing “I have changed my gender” isn't 100% accurate.
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obviously this query doesn't work so well with shopping centres. 😅
lol addressing is hard
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trans people are very open with each other. What we call sharing probably counts as “oversharing” for yous 😅.
But we really don't share deadnames. I don't know the deadnames of nearly all of my trans friends. We _don't_ share those things.
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The idea behind establishing this convention was to eliminate noise generated almost every time someone comes in and greets using some form of day-time based greeting, and then channel members on the other side of the globe start pointing out that it's different time of the day for them
#Postpass is an #SQL server. It (#PostgreSQL) can do data processing, and convert your data, meaning your map styles are simple and easy to understand.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Postpass/Examples#Colouring_bus_routes_by_starting_number
I'm not as anti-AI/LLM as some people. But I can't help but feel sad at how much of the “open internet” is being turned off, due to the side effect of AI/LLM (or their scrapers)....
State of the Map (@sotm@en.osm.town), the global OpenStreetMap conference, is considering organising childcare for attendees.
Please fill out this survey!
https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/childcare-at-the-next-sotm-survey/143589
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¹ WeeklyOSM entries are short, usually just one line about each thing
Is there any way (in OSM) to map the _type_ of pedestrian crossing symbol?
Some places have different styles.
e.g. Mainz has this Mainzelmännchen, Berlin, famously has different one for East & West Berlin.
How does one store that in OSM?
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mainzelm%C3%A4nnchen-Ampel.png
Hope everyone has a good time at #gpn
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Maybe I should start a side project which produces this dataset?
I'm not good at making maps or projects.
But data? code? that I can do.
#WhyNotAnotherSideProjects
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@habi@mastodon.social if there's 2 addresses with the same number and street, but they're 50 km away in different towns, that's probably not a mistake. There's bound to be a "1 Main Street" in town A and another in town B.
RE: @jjimenezshaw@mapstodon.space
I'm reinstalling a WMS server. We should get these stickers!
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@mdione@en.osm.town re: “did I change my gender”
There are some trans women who always knew that they were female, and remember knowing/feeling/saying¹ this from a young age. But that wasn't my (or other's) experience/history.
But it still feels strange to think of myself as a male in the past, so i dunno.
It's really weird. I feel like I've changed nothing, but also that I have changed a lot. So ... i dunno?!
(hence why it's better to just avoid saying that)
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@jleedev@mastodon.sdf.org yeah about the OSM diary entries.
I wrote monthly reports on what I did in OSM for a while, linking back to old entries. If you pay attention, you'll see I always used relative links, in preparation for name change. 😉
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@kevin@en.osm.town I am aware that if lots of wiki data was changed to say "cisgender male" instead of "male", lots of apps would break.
But that's because yous made a bad system, a bad data model.
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@kevin@en.osm.town do you know if there is some sort of wiki data policy that can explains this and can be pointed to?
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@kevin@en.osm.town I started changing a few long-dead people from gender=male to gender=cis male (which exists in wikidata). but they reverted it.
I don't do much #wikidata processing, but if you have a simple “gender=female” and trans women are supposed to go under the “gender=trans female”, then I dunno if you'd be counting a trans woman as a woman, which is problematic.
I can understand the resistance to having to think about trans issues when tracking people though the past, but c'mon.
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@kevin@en.osm.town if you queried wiki data for "is Kim Petras a woman", wouldn't the answer be "no"?
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@kevin@en.osm.town I tried to change a few genders to "cisgender female/male" and that was reverted saying that wasn't allowed.
So what you're describing ("we don't add it unless we know more") isn't how wiki data works IME. (I'm open to suggestions).
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@rompe@gts.rompe.org > I'm happy you're part of a fun group, and I'm slightly jealous
... do you want to join this group? 🤔 cause do I have news for you!
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@ownohmanny@mastodon.ie this is just a quickie query. If I wanted to exclude these false positives there's lots you can do with the query
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@kevin@en.osm.town be careful!
It's not true that a trans woman was a man at some point in time.
It's ✨ complicated✨.
A persons gender can change though. Well even that is complicated...
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@habi@mastodon.social It's sorta funny the things that trans people are fine with
Like, I don't mind seeing old photos of myself. It just looks like a weirdly different person. 😅😅 Lots of trans people post “timeline” photos ( https://www.reddit.com/r/transtimelines/ ). So old photos are, for many, OK.
But, I dunno, often people use a person's deadname as a way to say that they aren't (in my case) a woman.... I dunno, it just feels hurtful to hear
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@kevin@en.osm.town so you've confirmed the problem that I'm talking about. In the example there, they call cis women "women" and trans women "trans women".
Trans women _are_ women.
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@rompe@gts.rompe.org I have no problem with there being a way to say “this person is trans”. I'm trans. I'm proud of being trans. Being trans is cool!
I also like being a woman. I don't want to be treated as not a woman.
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@kevin@en.osm.town BTW, my suggestion would be to trans all trans women as women, an have another property either "gender assigned at birth=male/female/inter/etc".
Or a "this person's gender matches the gender they were assigned at birth=true/false"
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@kevin@en.osm.town I'm sorry, but I've checked that P21 page and it backs up my point, and not yous.
It starts off with “For human: male, female, non-binary, intersex, transgender female, transgender male, agender, etc”, this is what I said at the root the comment thread. I don't want to get involved in that sort of project.
There are loads of dinosaur transphobic comments there too.
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@kevin@en.osm.town Imagine Wikidata had a category of ”woman” and ”black woman”. And a person's gender had to be one of them. And the official advice was that white women should be given the gender of “woman”, and black women should get ”black woman”.
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@kevin@en.osm.town Yes that's basically what I said back at the start
Wikidata has decided to do a “trans women are a different gender from women” approach. Which is, y'know, bad?
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@davidr@hachyderm.io yeah Postpass is an osm2pgsql database with a web interface. It was made to show people they can just do a lot with SQL.