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If you have multiple tests that need to write to a folder, look at the output, then clean it, please consider that sometimes tests are executed in parallel and *use different output directories for each*.
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@danicheg@indieweb.social my point is more - why create a mock of WrappedInt rather than use a WrappedInt?
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However much you love your mocks, if you're mocking a pure data type with no behaviours attached, you're probably doing something wrong.
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@alexelcu@mastodon.social OCaml and its module language beg to differ
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@benjamingeer@piaille.fr je pense qu'il y a un juste milieu déplaisant mais acceptable à viser: ne pas rejeter les LLMs en block, au moins pendant l'entretien, mais ne pas non plus promettre des les utiliser pour générer du code.
Il est possible, si l'on est forcé d'utiliser des LLMs (et donc de faire fi de ses objections ethiques, ecologiques, morales...), de les utiliser pour. par exemple, se documenter sur des techs qu'on ne souhaite pas apprendre mais devons utiliser. Ou comme moteur de recherche (si tant est qu'on va *systématiquement* valider les résultats à la source). Etc...
Après évidemment se pose la question de, serait-on heureux dans une boite qui essaye de forcer les LLMs à tous les niveaux - parce que si c'est pour le code, on peut imaginer aussi que les emails vont etre générés, la documentation, que de nombreuses conversations vont etre "oui mais ChatGPT dit que...", ... Mais c'est parfois préférable à avoir faim...
Just published the slides to my "Effects as capabilities" talk from BOBKonf and Scalar: https://nrinaudo.github.io/talks/capabilities.html
Very glad i started lifting weights again, but i now have muscle pain in some very odd places. Do i really use my armpits? Do i have muscles there!?
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@mhoye@cosocial.ca so, don't get me wrong, I agree with you wholeheartedly and am making this argument regularly at work. But it's important to view the other perspective: an LLM will follow your instructions far, far faster than a junior developer. Hell, it will follow my own instructions far faster than I would.
It's hard to make the argument that speed is not the important metric here - to show that LLM-generated code is at best average, by definition. That a human gets better every single time they perform a task, in a way LLMs don't. That a trained junior can train other juniors, and if you do it right, you get exponentially more developers, where an LLM stays the same.
The problem is that:
- managers in our industry often care less about quality than about speed of delivery, because you can always fix later (which means, really, they'll have made a bundle and left before consequences must be dealt with).
- the asshole developer, which is unfortunately (in my experience) the majority of us, cares about feeling better than the rest, not about making everybody better.
I'm looking at a little bit of code that, in order to do basic auth in a (very simple) web app, requires understanding Kleisli, IO, and a bunch of other rather arcane concepts.
I love to hate on Spring Boot as much as the next guy, but it's hard to justify favouring the Scala complexity (and the, I'm not exagerating, days of work to get this working) over the somewhat black magic of Spring Boot that gets you something working in an hour and you can move on with your life and never look back.
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@hipsterelectron@circumstances.run ah interesting, that's just what I want to do. What documentation did you follow to achieve this?
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@hipsterelectron@circumstances.run I mean I'm not going to complain too hard, it's a massive effort and they're, to the best of my knowledge, pillaging my work to feed their models or ad customers...
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@hipsterelectron@circumstances.run I would have appreciated it if you had, of course, but I can also just wait until the migration to git-page is fully complete :)
Anybody using codeberg pages? I want to move my blog there, but the documentation is confusing - unless I'm mistaken, it documents the git-page method, but tells us to use the legacy v2 method if we want custom domains, and the legacy v2 method isn't documented?
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@IsomorphicDude@fosstodon.org no, that never happens to me with men. Ahem.
Oh this was frustrating. I didn't realise have of the lecture was missing.
Does anyone know where I can find the rest of Bauer's lecture on algebraic effects, the one that's linked on the Eff resource pages (https://github.com/yallop/effects-bibliography?tab=readme-ov-file#2018)?
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The mental model that works for me starts from: we’re simply trying to prevent some variables from escaping their intended scope. That’s it. The way this happens is clever and sometimes a little convoluted, but it’s *not* to do with capabilities.
It just so happens that we don’t want capabilities to escape their intended scope. But there are other such things.
While everybody’s gushing about Project Hail Mary, it might be worth pointing out this tidbit from the book.
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@RosaCtrl@social.vivaldi.net you have no control over whether you panic or not, isn't that the entire point? I'm glad you're less anxious now, and that I could at least try to help a little.
I'm half amused, half appalled by the reactions I'm seeing to Claude's code leak.
Goes from "this is the most impressive piece of code I've ever seen" to "well it *is* april the 1st, surely this must be a joke".
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@dwardoric@chaos.social i have another one in 2 weeks, and i’m hoping to do better. This one was on trails in the forest with lots of ups and downs, the next one is a lot more flat around the Fontainebleau castle
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@josch@floss.social @mhoye@cosocial.ca was that ever in doubt?
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@cellio@indieweb.social oh right i thought it was your question, sorry! I’m happy to reply with what i just said here, but i don’t have much more to say than that, not sure it’s worth it
I never know quite where I stand on verbose type names that duplicate namespace information.
For example, configuration types. Say I have one for databases, in the db namespace, and one for network, in the net namespace.
Should I call them both Config, or DbConfig and NetworkConfig?
The convention seems to be the latter, but then db.DbConfig is redundant, and while in the db namespace, I need to prefix everything with Db for no particular reason. And I can just locally alias them if I somehow need to use both in the same compilation unit.
So I personally prefer Config for both, but that's going against the general convention of just about every codebase I've ever worked on, and consistency is often better than good taste...
I just naturally, without thinking, called someone I was on the phone for tech support "young man", and I don't think I'll ever forgive myself for that.
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@custommonkey@fosstodon.org @danicheg@indieweb.social that is my point, yes - why mock data rather use data?
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@RosaCtrl@social.vivaldi.net no it was a very serious article on hacker news, they were genuinely impressed.
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@custommonkey@fosstodon.org @danicheg@indieweb.social it's a point I made elsewhere in the thread.
I'm happily throwing the baby with the bathwater here, because in my personal experience (which doesn't generalise, etc, etc), mocks and their ilks are more often misused than used. To the point that, to a whole set of developers, the misuse *is the point*.
So sure, mocks & stuff can be used sanely and, well, usefully. It's just that they're generally not.
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@NohatCoder@mastodon.gamedev.place I actually think that one is less evil than Google's usual stuff. At least in my case, all services were unlinked by default, which I'm going to assume is a legal requirement because there's no way my opsec is that good, so this email is in fact trying to get you to opt in to the evil stuff. They probably do not want it in the spam folder.
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@danicheg@indieweb.social @custommonkey@fosstodon.org let's say you want WrappedInt(1). You could just literally write that.
Instead, you decide to create a mock of WrappedInt - which might not be the right verb, it's merely the one used by the framework in use - and then configure that mock to return 1 when its internal state is accessed.
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@trenner@mastodon.social I'd not thought of that. *My* tooling doesn't do that :)
But then again aside from some very specific scenarios (Java and Kotlin with IntelliJ, for example), I've found all IDEs I've used clunky, prone to bad automated decisions, and generally unpleasant to use. So this might be more of a me problem.
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If you need to start an application with some configuration, have a test configuration, and a live one. Do not embark test configuration in production.
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@cellio@indieweb.social i don’t necessarily have the theoretical background for this, but aren’t dependent types types indexed by values? Scala match types aren’t that, they’re a lot closer to haskell type families
Oooh lovely: https://github.com/scala/scala3/pull/26246