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@crankylinuxuser@infosec.exchange @ploum@mamot.fr you were answering to a post that made a political comment comparing the use of "slop" with a movie that is famously a humorous political commentary (and often used as such). I'm not moving any goalpost here. You are free to use LLM if you like. The term "slop" is not technical : it does not describe the output of all LLMs (and what you said about PID was kinda demonstrating that). It describe a usage that some group find negative. If you use the tool ethically and correctly (whatever this means, we are still figuring it out), what you do with it is not slop (i think, but that is a personnal opinion).

@crankylinuxuser@infosec.exchange @ploum@mamot.fr PID and gradient-descent optimized learning system are different in nature though. Putting PID on the same spectrum as LLM seems wrong. Or the definition of your spectrum is so broad that you could put any self-regulating system on it (like a water flush), making this spectrum near useless to describe/compare anything.

@crankylinuxuser@infosec.exchange @ploum@mamot.fr you make this discussion a technical one, where it is political. A tool does not exists in a vacuum, it serves interests of some group, controling it means power etc...

The "slop" debate maybe would have not happened if big tech companies had not massively stolen content to train LLM. If they had not then sold them as "tools to help creativity" to the very same people it stole from.

It is always the same story :

• attempt at domination by big companies (yay capitalism)
• attempts to resist domination by some folks