Paul Spiesberger

@lehtimaeki@snapp.social it goes much deeper: they develop and maintain their own database! When the project started, there was no proper SQL DB available, so they created a full database themselves. The reason why search doesn't work well and the UI can only deliver what the structured data below offers. They work on a standard SQL DB. They call the project "Panorama – Global Message Database" and they update about the progress in their monthly development digest: https://blog.thunderbird.net/2026/06/thunderbird-monthly-development-digest-june-2026/

@tbernard@mastodon.social I will access it via my @murena@mastodon.social phone running @e_mydata@mastodon.social on a @Fairphone@social.weho.st or use my @tuxedocomputers@linuxrocks.online running @debian@framapiaf.org . There are great European solutions, you just need to buy them ✌️🇪🇺💙

@larma@mastodon.social @tbernard@mastodon.social @postmarketOS@social.treehouse.systems @modal@mastodon.design Yes, very much agree and @postmarketOS@social.treehouse.systems is great! I don't think that it will be long and they are a very valid alternative

@tbernard@mastodon.social while the Android OS itself is open source and cannot go proprietary, the rest which makes phones smart (PlayServices: push notifications, location, maps, etc) have always been proprietary. Also the cloud ecosystem around is closed source and this is where Murena steps in. Replacing all proprietary parts (e.g. PlayServices with @microg@fosstodon.org or cloud with @nextcloud@mastodon.xyz ) and make it as easy as possible so non engineers can use it as well.

@taye@mastodon.social 🫶

@blobjim@mastodon.social @tbernard@mastodon.social step by step we have to take back control and nothing will every be perfect straight from the start. For my part, I can't wait to buy open RISC-5 processors, but they are not ready yet...

@hernantz@fosstodon.org super nice and YES! 🚀

@blobjim@mastodon.social @tbernard@mastodon.social hopefully this will change in the future. @frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.org is doing great work in this field: https://frame.work/at/de/products/deep-computing-risc-v-mainboard

@jzakotnik@mastodon.social one thing Nextcloud can do is share files and folders with other instances, creating a cloud of Nexctclouds. Federation is the key: https://docs.nextcloud.com/server/stable/admin_manual/configuration_files/federated_cloud_sharing_configuration.html

@larma@mastodon.social @tbernard@mastodon.social very valid and true for any open source project. If you'd stop working on microg then the same would happen to my Murena phone - thank you very much BTW, an awesome piece of work and I am one of your donors 🙏❤️ Seems like Google gets more and more afraid of our liberation movement, which should encourage us to continue. Europe and the rest of the world might have to fork Android and continue without Google, although this would be a tremendous effort! 😅