The Actual Brian

@codefolio@ruby.social @mahmoudajawad@mastodon.online @clifff@shakedown.social @Gargron@mastodon.social You did this to yourselves. The thing you built was ALWAYS going to grow beyond your control and you're freaking out because that day has come and you refused to see that it was inevitable.

@mahmoudajawad@mastodon.online@clifff@shakedown.social @Gargron@mastodon.social So, the app that's likely to bring in tons of people, just block that because you don't like the app that you don't have to use unless you block them...?

@meercat0@mastodon.social @clifff@shakedown.social ...you don't HAVE to use their app. 🤷‍♂️

@meercat0@mastodon.social @clifff@shakedown.social So, no one uses their app. It's not out yet. Yeah, it's difficult explaining data collection to non technical people, but you're not their caretaker. They can use whatever app they want. They WILL use whatever app they want and if Meta provides one that gives them what they want where others fail, they'll use it. If people block Meta out of an emotional, knee jerk reaction, they just cut off the rest of us from what will be the biggest server

@codefolio@ruby.social @mahmoudajawad@mastodon.online @clifff@shakedown.social @Gargron@mastodon.social Also, all this blocking and #fedipact is just panicking. If blocked, you MUST use their app to interact with those people. If not, there's a huge community coming that we can interact with without giving up data. I wouldn't doubt it if Meta started or fueled the panic so you'll have to give up your data when your non technical family and friends move in.

@codefolio@ruby.social @mahmoudajawad@mastodon.online @clifff@shakedown.social @Gargron@mastodon.social I don't think they're worried. I think they want to be isolated from the greater fediverse. If they're the dominant server and you must use their app, then they get your data or you are isolated from the majority. Besides, you're correct. They didn't have to start it. I wouldn't put it past them, but they didn't have to. This is "The Monsters are Due on Maple St."

@codefolio@ruby.social @mahmoudajawad@mastodon.online @clifff@shakedown.social @Gargron@mastodon.social So, decide for everyone to block entire, large servers because, ... why? Why decide to blanket block anything to do with Meta before it even exists?

@codefolio@ruby.social @mahmoudajawad@mastodon.online @clifff@shakedown.social @Gargron@mastodon.social Straw man. No one said they won't. If they do, act then. It's open source. That's, what I'm continually told, is the beauty of it, and now it's only open if certain people are not panicked by what one might do. Prejudgment. Also, if they do, they cut themselves off. So what?

@codefolio@ruby.social @mahmoudajawad@mastodon.online @clifff@shakedown.social @Gargron@mastodon.social More straw men. Not the only way.

@codefolio@ruby.social @mahmoudajawad@mastodon.online @clifff@shakedown.social @Gargron@mastodon.social Nothing has happened, but you KNOW what the ONLY solutions are. It's funny. I hear completely different arguments from everyone and they're all just trying to justify fear in whatever context I asked. Everyone is simply afraid of losing control of the thing they imagine they are God/king of and losing control is inevitable unless you want to never grow.

@codefolio@ruby.social@mahmoudajawad@mastodon.online @clifff@shakedown.social @Gargron@mastodon.social False dichotomy. It's not now or never.

@codefolio@ruby.social @mahmoudajawad@mastodon.online @clifff@shakedown.social @Gargron@mastodon.social Yes. I do. They do or they don't. Whatever profits them more. FFS, they're profit driven, not out to get you. And, if they do, you did it to yourself and are just pissed that someone else made a more popular platform than you did. You paranoids have been demanding people ban the larger instances and verbally lynching admins for talking to Meta because you "kNoW" what they must have said, just like you just "kNoW" it's the only possibility.

@codefolio@ruby.social @mahmoudajawad@mastodon.online @clifff@shakedown.social @Gargron@mastodon.social Guess what. Mastodon IS a second class service! I've been saying, for months, that the way to grow Mastodon is to have one, official app that's FULLY featured, because the general public won't use something that requires technical, back end knowledge to use. People keep telling me that's wrong, and Meta is about to show them just how wrong they are!

@codefolio@ruby.social @mahmoudajawad@mastodon.online @clifff@shakedown.social @Gargron@mastodon.social That has nothing to do with your knee jerk reaction and shows that it's not now or never. People are going to go to Meta because they'll have a fully featured app, they won't have to know how the back end works, and everyone they know will be there. Mastodon dropped the ball on all that and Meta is picking it up and running with it. Blocking them only drives more people away. Acting like it's rational to act out of fear doesn't help either.

@codefolio@ruby.social @mahmoudajawad@mastodon.online @clifff@shakedown.social @Gargron@mastodon.social HA! You have zero leverage. It's open source. You can't stop them. The main, Mastodon App being the killer app was the one and only chance of dominating the platform, but everyone wanted to believe that a million, tiny servers with hundreds of apps would magically protect them. Mastodon is leaving them behind because they're trying to hold it back.

@codefolio@ruby.social @mahmoudajawad@mastodon.online @clifff@shakedown.social @Gargron@mastodon.social I never said it should be like other social media. I said that if you want it to grow, you must embrace the general public. I said that you'll never get the general public here without simplicity. Good god, federation was a good idea, yeah, but like EVERY system implemented by techs with no input from support, you ARE a walled garden because you exclude anyone but tech nerds. Keep trying to avoid that one, simple fact.

@codefolio@ruby.social @mahmoudajawad@mastodon.online @clifff@shakedown.social @Gargron@mastodon.social That's nice. You want to hide. Fine. I never said it implied you couldn't do that. I was saying that IF people didn't want Mastodon to wither and die or, at best, forever be an obscure afterthought, it has to grow and growth means bring in the general public. It's astounding how thick people who believe they're intelligent and correct can be. I've been repeating that and you just keep trying to find some way around it.

@codefolio@ruby.social @mahmoudajawad@mastodon.online @clifff@shakedown.social @Gargron@mastodon.social Oh, for fucks sake, your arguments are about as sound as a Trumpers and about to nothing more than a cult like belief that you all have some kind of power to control and shape this place. All you'll do is strangle it. What's worse, now you're proudly proclaiming you DON'T want more users. Good god, you all really do just want your own little fiefdom to rule over. King of you double digit users. Whatever. Embrace obscurity. It's all you'll have now.

@MsHearthWitch@wandering.shop @clifff@shakedown.social Profit.